# Suddenly increased Gamma radiation in Ukraine? **URL:** \ **Category:** World\ **Tags:** ukraine, russia\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570 "2022-02-24T23:40:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![REALITY](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/reality/32/25124_2.png) [@REALITY](https://teo9i.com/u/REALITY)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/1 "2022-02-24T23:40:23Z")
[https://i.imgur.com/8sUHwx6.png](https://i.imgur.com/8sUHwx6.png) [https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#11/51.3463/30.1513/gamma/comp+cams+fire](https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#11/51.3463/30.1513/gamma/comp+cams+fire) # Related.. > **[Radiation background in Ukraine | Чернобыль, Припять, зона отчуждения ЧАЭС](https://chornobyl.in.ua/en/radiation-background-ukraine.html)** > > radioactivity in Ukraine after Chernobyl accident and today - maps and data # Related… [https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/chernobyl-power-plant-captured-by-russian-forces-ukrainian-official-2022-02-24/](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/chernobyl-power-plant-captured-by-russian-forces-ukrainian-official-2022-02-24/) # Related… > **[Eyes on Russia: The Russia-Ukraine Monitor Map by Cen4infoRes · MapHub](https://maphub.net/Cen4infoRes/russian-ukraine-monitor)** > > Eyes on Russia: The Russia-Ukraine Monitor Map by Cen4infoRes # Related… > **[Ukraine loses control of Chernobyl site; increase in radiation detected | The...](https://journalrecord.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-loses-control-of-chernobyl-site-increase-in-radiation-detected/)** > > A presidential adviser said Thursday that Ukraine had lost control of the Chernobyl nuclear site, where Ukranian forces had waged a fierce battle with Russian troops. ---
**Author:** ![elsels](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/elsels/32/36_2.png) [@elsels](https://teo9i.com/u/elsels)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/2 "2022-02-24T23:58:40Z")
Lord have mercy! What a dang poop show. ---
**Author:** ![REALITY](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/reality/32/25124_2.png) [@REALITY](https://teo9i.com/u/REALITY)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/3 "2022-02-25T00:31:24Z")
Yes there’s nothing good going to come out of this. ---
**Author:** ![Flee](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/flee/32/74_2.png) [@Flee](https://teo9i.com/u/Flee)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/4 "2022-02-25T02:57:48Z")
I side with Russia on this. Solely because Trudeau and Biden are against Russia. Also incoming cyber attack. Biden and gates brought it up. Russia bout to be blamed for US shenanigans. ---
**Author:** ![wombat\_harness](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/wombat_harness/32/661_2.png) [@wombat\_harness](https://teo9i.com/u/wombat_harness)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 7:35am UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/5 "2022-02-25T07:35:30Z")
I’m not a fan of Biden nor of Trudeau (in fact, I can’t really think of a single politician that I do admire) but in my view, Putin is also a dangerous little prick who’s been in power for far too long and is starting to believe his own hype. The hero worship that Trump, Farage and their ilk have for him also sticks in my craw. Whether it’s due to prolonged isolation - he’s clearly terrified of catching Covid - or whether it’s the inevitable slide into megalomania, from which all autocratic despots seem to suffer, he appears to be going it alone and doesn’t have anyone close to him to point-out that some of his whims really aren’t a good idea. He seems paranoid and angry. Some would say he’s been provoked, others might think it’s a scheme he’s been nurturing for a while. Frankly, the blatant threat to nuke anyone who interferes in Ukraine can’t be allowed to stand, either. I hope he’s messed-up here. That the world will finally treat his Russia as the rogue state that it’s been for a long time. A lot will depend on China’s reactions, of course. Are we pure and wonderful in the West? Of course not but Putin is a savage and, unless it’s all a show for the cameras, he seems to be losing his marbles. I hope there’s a popular uprising against him and his cronies, but I doubt it. Honestly, I feel we’re beginning to walk the path to a much wider confrontation here. I hope I’m wrong. Just my ha’peth, of course. Other, probably better informed opinions, are available. ---
**Author:** ![Flee](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/flee/32/74_2.png) [@Flee](https://teo9i.com/u/Flee)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/6 "2022-02-25T12:54:08Z")
The problem is that we don’t know what these world leaders know. We do know there are groups of wealth that seek to, at the least, manipulate the planet for their gain. How evil are they? What are thier plans beyond wealth, if any? What if Putin as asked to kneel and said no? What of the same for China? Seems being a power hungry asshole is certain, but which power hungry asshole is preferred? I know the ones in the west just lie and manipulate and desire to make their population afraid. I don’t know much of Chinese or Russian propaganda. Do they also make their population live in fear? ---
**Author:** ![wombat\_harness](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/wombat_harness/32/661_2.png) [@wombat\_harness](https://teo9i.com/u/wombat_harness)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/7 "2022-02-25T13:37:13Z")
I’ll reply anon! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/8 "2022-02-25T16:10:16Z")
> [@Flee](#): > > I don’t know much of Chinese or Russian propaganda. Do they also make their population live in fear? Depends which side of the Tiananmen Square photos you believe. OT: Mince pie, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Flee](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/flee/32/74_2.png) [@Flee](https://teo9i.com/u/Flee)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/9 "2022-02-25T16:55:26Z")
Anything more recent? ---
**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/10 "2022-02-25T17:04:09Z")
Pretty confident they kept stuff under wraps since then. I’ve seen a lot of weird shit from outside of the government but otherwise nope. It’s not really fair to assume, of course. The recent switching away from democracy thing was a bit annoying, although it never really was democracy, and as Plato said, democracy is just 1 step from tyranny and one below oligarchy. I’m starting to agree with him. ---
**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/11 "2022-02-25T17:11:47Z")
[https://medium.com/the-philosophers-stone/why-plato-hated-democracy-3221e7dcd96e](https://medium.com/the-philosophers-stone/why-plato-hated-democracy-3221e7dcd96e) ---
**Author:** ![Flee](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/flee/32/74_2.png) [@Flee](https://teo9i.com/u/Flee)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/12 "2022-02-25T17:36:24Z")
A friend recently turned me on the the horseshoe theory. I believe it is a more accurate representation of the political spectrum. > **[Horseshoe theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)** > > In popular discourse, the horseshoe theory asserts that advocates of the far-left and the far-right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear continuum of the political spectrum, closely resemble each other, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together. The theory is attributed to the French philosopher Jean-Pierre Faye in his 1972 book Théorie du récit: introduction aux langages totalitaires, in relation to Otto Strasser. > Proponents point to... He also gave me insight into the ukraine issue from the perspective of a Russian. Very interesting to learn that a neonazi militia group was folded into the ukrainian military. Add on to the fact that the issues in Canada have exposed our deputy PM as a ukrainian whose grandfather was a nazi collaborator, and she spent her 20s in the ukraine protesting or something, which was enough for russia to deny her access into their country. According to my friend, taking the chrimea was no different than the UK defending the falklands. a group of people that wanted to be part of a certain country, but didnt live in it. Add to this, some history… the cuban missle crisis was bad, because russia putting missles that close to US soil. what has the US been doing in the ukraine again? The US almost went to war over Cuba, which was justified(apparently), yet Russia doing the same is not? A skunks asshole smells better than all this crap. ---
**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/13 "2022-02-25T17:58:16Z")
I take a stand away and balance the story here though. There is a neo-nazi militia and these: > **[Azov Brigade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion)** > > Inactive or defunct > The 12th Special Forces Brigade "Azov" (Ukrainian: 12-та бригада спеціального призначення «Азов», romanized: 12-ta bryhada spetsialnoho pryznachennya "Azov") is a formation of the National Guard of Ukraine formerly based in Mariupol, in the coastal region of the Sea of Azov, from which it derives its name. It was founded in May 2014 as the Azov Battalion\[a\] (Ukrainian: батальйон «Азов», romanized: Batalion "Azov"), a self-funded volunteer militia under the command of Andri... I’m dubious of this source, but politics-wise, they banned nazi/communist “propaganda”, replacing Lenin’s statue with Darth Vader, plus a bunch of other similar stuff. [https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/neo-nazis-dominate-in-the-parliament-and-government-of-ukraine/](https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/neo-nazis-dominate-in-the-parliament-and-government-of-ukraine/) This seems to be a good read on it: > **[Smear and Loathing: A Close Look at Accusations of Ukrainian Anti-Semitism](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/smear-and-loathing-a-close-look-at-accusations-of-ukrainian-anti-semitism)** > > Critics such as Sohrab Ahmari are conveniently silent about Russian fascism and anti-Semitism. There are neo-nazi’s rife amongst eastern Europe / Eurasia. To make out this is the incentive smells worse to me. I wouldn’t compare Crimea and the Falklands - there was mainly British people and some Argentineans there, but it belonged to Britain. Crimea belonged to Ukraine, despite there being mainly Russians there. I would rather say that it was a big mistake to tilt to NATO, but this now has gone beyond diplomacy even though their leader is a bit freaked and trying to nice it with independence with Russia’s Dmitry, it’s too late on either side. I do see most of the current retaliation as lip service - the sanctions and so on. If leaders genuinely care, they go all in, but I seriously doubt they will dip their toes that much. ---
**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/14 "2022-02-25T18:09:50Z")
I might be wrong but this “claiming of land because lots of their people live there” stuff seems to be tactical. Let’s hope they don’t overrun London OH NO WAIT SHIT ---
**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/15 "2022-02-25T18:11:00Z")
![Screenshot 2022-02-25 at 18.10.33](https://teo9i.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/18dea9f6e954503b55ef1cf1cccdfe83d2d5dbef.jpeg) I don’t like this stuff. Smells like they’re creating extra human shields to tally up civilian deaths and tug at heart strings to me. ---
**Author:** ![REALITY](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/reality/32/25124_2.png) [@REALITY](https://teo9i.com/u/REALITY)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/16 "2022-02-25T18:11:20Z")
Nor this. [https://twitter.com/\_HenryBolton/status/1497264757853892615](https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1497264757853892615) ---
**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/17 "2022-02-25T18:14:56Z")
That was so fucked up. They’re trying to make out the Ukraine tank swerved suddenly… directly into and over that car, and stayed there? Whoops. ---
**Author:** ![REALITY](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/reality/32/25124_2.png) [@REALITY](https://teo9i.com/u/REALITY)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/18 "2022-02-25T18:24:07Z")
Yeah I rushed to the comments as well, I can’t believe he survived. ---
**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/19 "2022-02-25T18:24:45Z")
I know!! ---
**Author:** ![Flee](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/flee/32/74_2.png) [@Flee](https://teo9i.com/u/Flee)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/suddenly-increased-gamma-radiation-in-ukraine/3570/20 "2022-02-25T18:28:59Z")
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