# Nick Cave on wokeness, love, art and the loss of his sons

**URL:** <https://teo9i.com/t/nick-cave-on-wokeness-love-art-and-the-loss-of-his-sons/6547>\
**Category:** Culture\
**Tags:** music, Interview\
**Created:** [March 28, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/nick-cave-on-wokeness-love-art-and-the-loss-of-his-sons/6547 "2024-03-28T22:34:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/nick-cave-on-wokeness-love-art-and-the-loss-of-his-sons/6547/1 "2024-03-28T22:34:44Z")

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> **[Nick Cave on love, art and the loss of his sons: ‘It’s against nature to bury...](https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/mar/28/nick-cave-on-love-art-and-the-loss-of-his-sons-its-against-nature-to-bury-your-children)**
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> In the past nine years, the musician and artist has lost two sons – an experience he explores in a shocking, deeply personal new ceramics project. He discusses mercy, forgiveness, making and meaning

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**Author:** ![marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/user_avatar/teo9i.com/marksyzm/32/27711_2.png) [@marksyzm](https://teo9i.com/u/marksyzm)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/nick-cave-on-wokeness-love-art-and-the-loss-of-his-sons/6547/2 "2024-03-28T22:36:38Z")

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Cave feels he is misunderstood in another way, after saying recently that he has always been [“temperamentally” conservative](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jun/05/is-nick-cave-a-conservative-depends-what-kind-of-conservative-you-mean) and attacking the “self-righteous belief” and [“lack of humility” of woke culture](https://www.theredhandfiles.com/why-do-you-write/). This has led some to assume he is supping with the “alt-right”, which couldn’t be further from the truth.

“Conservatism is a difficult word to talk about in Britain, because people immediately think of the Tories. But I do think small-C conservatism is someone who has a fundamental understanding of loss, an understanding that to pull something down is easy, to build it back up again is extremely difficult. There is an innate need in us to rip shit down, and I’m personally more cautious in that respect without it being a whole political ideology that surrounds me.”

Is he a Tory? “I’m not a Tory, no.” Has he ever been? “No. No, I’ve never voted Tory.” And is he really anti-woke? “The concept that there are problems with the world we need to address, such as social justice; I’m totally down with that. However, I don’t agree with the methods that are used in order to reach this goal – shutting down people, cancelling people. There’s a lack of mercy, a lack of forgiveness. These go against what I fundamentally believe on a spiritual level, as much as anything. So it’s a tricky one. The problem with the right taking hold of this word is that it’s made the discussion impossible to have without having to join a whole load of nutjobs who have their problem with it.”

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://teo9i.com/t/nick-cave-on-wokeness-love-art-and-the-loss-of-his-sons/6547/3 "2024-03-28T22:54:02Z")

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> Music, art, reminds us of our fundamental capacity to create beautiful things out of the fuckeries of life.

:clap: